Very nice blog. Pretty good information. BTW, how do you estimate the equipment cost for a painting project? You might have spray machines bought 3 years ago or may be renting such machines. So how much equipment cost will you charge for a given project? Also how about the overhead cost – like insurance, rent, ad, vehicle, utility, salary…etc… ? How do you figure out how much overhead cost to be charged on a given painting project? Broomfield Home Painting
Thank you Chandler. This is a very useful site. I am starting to build the painting side of my business and wasn’t sure how to bid on larger jobs. Just got the call to bid on 1550 sf new construction, freshly textured, prime and paint ceilings, walls. Also paint doors, trim and baseboards. Customer bought the paint. Initial thought was to go in at around $1500, but after reading many of the comments here I think I would be more in line at around $2300. Would I be way off base with this price? Broomfield House Painting
I am starting out on my own and like most everyone else, I am inexperienced with estimating and pricing. I know you dont do estimates, but my question is about the pricing market in the DC area as oppose to other regions. I painted mostly in the west where the cost of living is much cheaper. How will I compare pricing from there to here in the DC area where the cost of living is 3xs as high? Broomfield House Painting
Hey so my boss and i just finished tearing the inside of an old. Barn apart and framing it into a 2 bed 1.5 bath plus an office. Sq ft is about 2300. Dry wall was just installed and textured and now its on me to paint and prime ceilings, walls and trim. Paint is paid for and supplies are paid for by my boss to help me out. Ill be doing the job by myself. What is a fair price to charge for labor? House Painting Broomfield CO
Painters often tint primer close to the color of the top coat, but Wallis thinks that's a recipe for "holidays," or missed spots. Instead, he tints his primer a contrasting color. "If I can see the color coming through, I know I need to apply more paint," he says. On the cottage shown in this story, he chose a gray-blue primer to go under a peach top coat. House Painting Broomfield CO
Hi there I’ve been running my business for over a year and I have come to realize that due to the area I live seems that. When I bid people think it’s way to much because we live in a very small town. I know other painters in my area and they run into the same issue on average my business is only making 350.00 a day if I try to bid it higher it turns people away. How can I help my business earn more?
Hey there ! My names Paul Zeise , with Paul’s Home Improvement. Im working on a bid for a commercial painting job. The painting surface would be masonry and it already has a coat of paint. Theres a bunch of pipes to paint around and i have no idea what to charge per sq ft. Whats the going rate for commercial painteing per sq ft ? Thanks for the help Broomfield House Painting
Thank you Chandler. This is a very useful site. I am starting to build the painting side of my business and wasn’t sure how to bid on larger jobs. Just got the call to bid on 1550 sf new construction, freshly textured, prime and paint ceilings, walls. Also paint doors, trim and baseboards. Customer bought the paint. Initial thought was to go in at around $1500, but after reading many of the comments here I think I would be more in line at around $2300. Would I be way off base with this price?
I have always wanted to work for myself.I have been making other guys rich for years.I know if they can do it I can do it.One downside is I don’t have the gift of gab like they do.I would probably benefit from getting someone to work with me in that area.I can do the labor.I will have a problem with bidding and finding the work.I work for guys who take me to a customers house say this is Mike and leave me to do the work .I barely make ends meet while I hear them getting 4,000 dollar checks .It isn’t adding up I need to be working for my future not theirs.I would like to begin my own business it will be slow and I wont have a lot to start but I will grow expand and gain employees and knowledge.Do you have people in Cincinnati,Ohio I would like to offer other services as well.I can do minor drywall repairs clean cut lawns a lot of property preservation type stuff also Thank You for this site by he way it helps. Broomfield House Painting
Hi Cory, one of the biggest problem painters have is not being able to sell their own value. Our prices are usually the highest YET we have the highest closing/sales rate. If you don’t sell the value of your paint job or educate the customer why your price is higher, your bid looks the same as someone who’s lowballing. The customer is not going to know much about the importance of prep or using good materials until you educate them. Then they will prefer your higher price, knowing that the quality in your work is higher. Broomfield Home Painting
Hi Conaz, good question. There’s a really good breakdown of all painting equipment (cost, supplies list etc.) here . As far as your other costs, I would break it down into categories, similar to how an accountant would do it: Marketing Expense, Insurance/Workers Comp., Gas/Mileage. Once you’ve discovered this monthly overhead you can determine your markup. We always try to make 40-50% gross profit on a paint job before any other expenses. Your net profit will be determined by the size of your business. For example, one painting company with 40 employees may only have a net profit of 10%, but a smaller operation; One owner and one crew may have a net profit of 35%. You should decide beforehand what you want to make per job, factoring in all your costs, and then create a consistent bidding process to make what you want.
Once you find a painting pro you want to hire, be sure to have a detailed contract that includes the scope of work and prices for all materials and paint that is being used. Find out how many coats of paint will be applied as well as the brand of paint that will be used. Most decent painting pros will use quality brands like BEHR or Sherwin Williams. The contract should also spell out the time frame to complete the project and as well as set up clean up details. House Painting Broomfield CO
When You Screw Up Will you mess up a couple times? Definitely. More than a couple. I have messed up a lot of painting estimates. But every time we mess up (and we still do), we learn from those mistakes and never make the same mistakes twice. Screwing up and failing is how you learn. Be ready to make never-ending tweaks and adjustments to your estimates. There is no way to be in business and not screw up. Learn to embrace those failures, and learn from them. If you do screw up your bid, that’s ok. You have to price yourself incredibly low to actually lose money. So don’t sweat. Just learn. House Painting Broomfield CO
Hi Dan, your pricing is definitely going to be on the high end of our pricing tables. Trimming tudor-style jobs can take a long time, especially if you’re cutting in near the body color (painting 3 sides of the trim instead of just the front). The color change is going to increase time even more because you might have to go over the trim a couple times by hand just to cover. I would bid high on this job. House Painting Broomfield Colorado
I have a wire fence with wood posts every four feet. A guy I know painted it. It took 4 gallons of stain but he can’t figure what to charge. I want to be fair, so any clue to a fair price? if I provided all materials stain and equipment and he did pressure wash the fence to prep it after 3 days he was half done, so on Sunday I was off work and painted the other half in 6 hrs using half of the 4 gallons.
You might pay an additional $1 to $5 per square foot for optional repairs and updates. Consider having your molding, trim and baseboards checked while you have a professional in your home. This might be a good time to upgrade or repair any cracks, warps or other issues. Pros can usually touch up or replace these items for an affordable rate, and they may even package such fixups with your project. House Painting Broomfield CO
Expect to pay between $600 to $3,500 or $1.25 to $3 per square foot to coat vinyl, with prices likely increasing for the finish. It is one of the more inexpensive siding materials to have repainted, especially with recent innovations in materials. Changing the finish on your siding is not recommended unless it's completely degraded and worn away by the weather. You can save nearly half the vinyl siding installation cost of $4 per square foot by painting rather than replacing. Before adding a new coat to vinyl siding, Broomfield Home Painting
Hey Chandler, we have a house 2565 sq ft with the old wood trim on windows and doors. Doors are solid dark wood. We would paint all walls and doors and trim and baseboards. We also would be painting the cabinets in the kitchen from wood to white. We are trying to determine a final all in labor cost + a timeframe to do the job. The trim is trim time is throwing us off a bit. And personally, thank you very much for your time and sacrifice on this blog you have helped many many people. Broomfield House Painting
how do i calculate time for this job. is it as simple as your comment above 3x more for difficult jobs like peeling and wood damage, where does cutting in come into play. the area i have is a long narrow section around a top of a building. with the channel siding i have to cut in the top and i cant just do it quick each piece needs to get done individually. House Painting Broomfield Colorado